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« on: February 21, 2010, 01:28:46 PM » |
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 "As for the potential to keep you warm and cook your food, the L67 port-a-pit is by far the best setup."
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 01:31:47 PM » |
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ahh, that's the warm welcome i was looking for. Fuck the 3800.
please run for president...
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 02:11:23 PM » |
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ahh, that's the warm welcome i was looking for.
please run for president...
Considering our current and last president...
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 03:28:20 PM » |
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WHY do you guys dislike the 3800 so much?
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 03:35:26 PM » |
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ahh, that's the warm welcome i was looking for.
please run for president...
WIN, You've got my vote
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 03:40:37 PM » |
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WHY do you guys dislike the 3800 so much?
It is a terribly inefficient motor that sounds like poo and catches on fire.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 03:55:48 PM » |
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It is a terribly inefficient motor that sounds like poo and catches on fire.
It also runs forever, has quite a bit of power, and is practically indestructible. I WANT a 3800. I think the 3.4 should have never been made, and I'm kinda meh about my 3100. Post Merge: February 21, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
It also was considered one of the ten best engines made for 4 years in a row: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward%27s_10_Best_Engines
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 04:38:43 PM » |
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It is a terribly inefficient motor that sounds like poo and catches on fire.
and has the worlds worst location for power steering resivoir...
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 04:50:17 PM » |
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It also runs forever, has quite a bit of power, and is practically indestructible. I WANT a 3800. I think the 3.4 should have never been made, and I'm kinda meh about my 3100. Post Merge: February 21, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
It also was considered one of the ten best engines made for 4 years in a row: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward%27s_10_Best_EnginesIt has to be supercharged to make as much power as the 3900....
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2010, 04:52:29 PM » |
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It has to be supercharged to make as much power as the 3900....
That's handy, because the engine I want IS a supercharged 3800. Isn't the 3900 a drive-by-wire engine, sort of like the 3800 series III, therefore making it very difficult to put in a 1st gen?
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2010, 04:58:11 PM » |
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yes, drive-by-wire, just like most GM vehicles made today.
getting a new TB isn't that expensive or hard though...
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2010, 05:04:43 PM » |
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Is the 3900 a 60* V6? How much modding is involved with putting one in? I've had my heart set on an L67 S2, but I know it requires a fair amount of modding.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2010, 05:15:53 PM » |
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Is the 3900 a 60* V6? How much modding is involved with putting one in? I've had my heart set on an L67 S2, but I know it requires a fair amount of modding.
yes. it's the largest, and probably last OHV 60* motor... getting the 3900 to bolt in is no problem, it's controlling the variable valve timing and variable intake that's the issue... i'm working on a controller using Arduino, but i don't know when it will be done...
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2010, 05:21:02 PM » |
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yes. it's the largest, and probably last OHV 60* motor... getting the 3900 to bolt in is no problem, it's controlling the variable valve timing and variable intake that's the issue... i'm working on a controller using Arduino, but i don't know when it will be done...
Hmm... maybe down the road you will be helping me put one in my GP  I still like the supercharged 3800 Series II, and there's already a large group of people who have done it. That helps.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2010, 05:56:29 PM » |
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none of the 3800s ive owned, or ones people i know have owned (probably 7 or 8 in total including 2 GTPs that were modded and Bonnieville pushin over 400hp) -i didnt own the gtps or 400hp bondoonski, but l27s. lol
and NONE of them started on fire, or even quit working. of all the engines in a series 1W i would gladly take the 3800 over my problematic pain in the ass to work on retardedly proportioned 3.4DOHC. they get about the same for mileage, if not the 3800s were better because i didnt have to make it downshift to speed up on the highway with its extra torque, and it didnt have an oil pump drive seal to leak and also catch fire. it didnt have a timing belt to break and take a day to switch. it didnt have an alternator burried in the back underneath EVERYTHING in a retarded place to catch every splash, and coils located under the front exhaust manifold. its cooling fans can be replaced without taking the rad out... AND the 3800s i all owned that havent been crashed ALL still to this very day start easier than my 3.4 does on average.
why hate something as reliable and powerful as the 3800?? because it has a balancing shaft and weighs an extra 100lbs or soething? thats the difference between a passenger or not sometimes (if shes built right) lol
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