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« on: February 13, 2010, 12:23:23 PM »

I seem to be the only guy here who works on this engine, but I figure someone else might come along as crazy as me.

ZZP makes a $200 upper intake plastic insert for the L36, in which they essentially reduce the length of the runners by 3". I've been told that this really wakes up cars with an aftermarket cam. I don't have a cam, but I do have an intake, exhaust, 1.8 ratio roller rockers, and a ported LIM, all of which contribute to a better breathing engine.

I'll take pictures today as I do everything, but I'm being told by a member on the Bonneville Forum that a reduction of 1" in the runner length should give me quite a boost of power given my modifications and the overall engine design. The L27 has nearly just as much torque as the L36, but 35hp less, which is partially due to the cylinder heads, and partially due to the intake design.

The intake runners on the L36 are significantly shorter than the ones on the L27.

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L36 LIM:


L27 LIM:


As you can see, the L27 LIM runners are at least half a foot longer than those on the L36.

Unlike with the L36 upper intake plentum, the L27's upper intake works in conjunction with the LIM to create the runners instead of just serving as an extension. the problem with this is that there is a sharp angle at the point where the UIM meets the LIM. What I'm going to do is shorten the runners by 1" down to that point.

Lets see if we can make an L27 come alive. Pictures with further detail to come.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 01:08:21 PM »

my old regal is still available for me to tinker with. and the guy that owns it would love more power. haha
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 07:56:15 PM »

Well this mod definitely opened up more power on the top end.  evil
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 10:22:15 PM »

so its an l36 intake on l27? (upper and lower)
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 10:28:42 PM »

so its an l36 intake on l27? (upper and lower)


No, that would be impossible, since the Series 1 shortblock has a 1" taller deck height, which means that the heads are farther apart.

What I did is shorten the length of the runners on my UIM insert.

Here's what I did:



I cut off the inside walls of the runners, thereby making a larger plenum and shorter runners.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 11:53:48 PM »

ya know, ive never taken the intake off of one of those... im gonna have to check it out. was yours the composite one? it sure dont look like aluminum
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