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Author *Topic: "Overheating" Well kinda, sorta. It's complicated.  (Read 1475 times)
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2009, 10:53:01 AM »

well... could still be within spec......  keep us posted....
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2009, 03:33:32 PM »

The radiator either plugged or the water pumps vaines have erroded away and arnt pushing enough coolant. thats pretty hot.......stuffs cheap replace it
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2009, 05:55:34 AM »

Well, here's a small update.... I pulled the t-stat because I wanted to be 100% sure it was opening. I took it and put both the new thermostat and the old thermostat in a pot of boiling water. Both t-stats opened up, the older one oened up more than the newer one actually. I drilled two small holes in the older on on opposite sides and reinstalled it. I verified the thermostat opening by pulling the hose and checking coolant flow both when hot and when up to operating temp.

I stuck two thermometers in the coolant outlet just below the thermostat, they both read 200* (which seems about right since the both t-stats are 195*)




After the engine cooled down for a bit the water backwashed into the system, this concerned me at first, but since the system was open, it makes perfect sense.




This is what my Euro runs at, I've never see it get higher. I'm also not willing to pull the t-stat and see what temp it is - because I don't want to go through the nightmare I'm going through with the '92. There seems to be no air in the coolant system in the Euro, and I'd like to keep it that way.




Since putting the original t-stat back in and driving the car a bunch, the temperature gauge is still staying steady. No overheating problems and thermostat seems to be opening. Only issue is, that the thing is still eating coolant. I don't know what's causing it ti eat coolant only when the thermostat is in there... I want put the proper 50/50 mix of antifreeze and water in there, but if it's just going to eat it all - that's kinda expensive. I don't see water leaking anywhere when the car is running, and it's not blowing anything onto the windshield. I don't think it's burning it because the exhaust doesn't smoke excessively and there's no coolant in the oil...
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2009, 02:38:30 PM »

theres a pipe that runs from the water pump to the heater core, its long and metal, and has a spot that i never noticed leaking untill it burst finally.
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2009, 07:10:03 PM »

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theres a pipe that runs from the water pump to the heater core, its long and metal, and has a spot that i never noticed leaking untill it burst finally.


I agree, the metal retrun line from the heatercore is especially likley to rust and leak.

On the 92 euro... changing the T-stat should not cause a problem, if one is not currently present.   again, drill ONE tiny hole to allow air to weep thru... and you can rest easy as it will prevent the issue you are worried about.

oh... and even if you don't drill a hole, as long as the coolant level is enough to submerge the T-stat, you should be fine.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 07:45:20 AM »

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theres a pipe that runs from the water pump to the heater core, its long and metal, and has a spot that i never noticed leaking untill it burst finally.


Yeah, I replaced that like the first week I owned the car
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2009, 11:51:01 AM »

AH-HA! Fuck you 1st gen Lumina!

I found the problem.


The mount for my transmission cooler lines (that hold them on the rad support) has fallen off. One of the lines has been rubbing my rad for quite some time apparently. Well, it rubbed a freaking hole right through one of the coolant passages! When the car was running the line was keeping enough pressure on the hole that it wouldn't leak. When the car warmed up and built up enough pressure in the system, it would piss the fluid out of the hole.

The only reason I found this was because I was dicking with shit under the hood saturday when I changed my oil. My girlfriend was like "there's water leaking from that line right there". I  was like "Impossible! That's a transmission cooler line, there's no water in there!" Then I move it, and a steady stream of water came out of the rad!

Now I have to hunt down a radiator. Unfortunately the one from my parts car won't fit since it has the 3 speed and my Lumina has the 4, so the transmission cooler lines are on the wrong side!
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2009, 03:16:52 PM »

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AH-HA! Fuck you 1st gen Lumina!

I found the problem.


The mount for my transmission cooler lines (that hold them on the rad support) has fallen off. One of the lines has been rubbing my rad for quite some time apparently. Well, it rubbed a freaking hole right through one of the coolant passages! When the car was running the line was keeping enough pressure on the hole that it wouldn't leak. When the car warmed up and built up enough pressure in the system, it would piss the fluid out of the hole.

The only reason I found this was because I was dicking with shit under the hood saturday when I changed my oil. My girlfriend was like "there's water leaking from that line right there". I  was like "Impossible! That's a transmission cooler line, there's no water in there!" Then I move it, and a steady stream of water came out of the rad!

Now I have to hunt down a radiator. Unfortunately the one from my parts car won't fit since it has the 3 speed and my Lumina has the 4, so the transmission cooler lines are on the wrong side!


do what I did once....  "crimp it" closed and slather it with jb weld.
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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2009, 04:17:41 PM »

JB Weld FTW
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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2009, 06:11:29 AM »

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do what I did once....  "crimp it" closed and slather it with jb weld.


Alright, so this is what I did...

I pulled the engine mounts and the fans and drained the radiator. Crimped the shit shut that was leaking and removed all the fins in that area. I applied about half the tube of JB Weld to the rad and made sure to cover a bit more than just what was leaking. Reinstalled the primary fan with the transmission cooler lines BEHIND it and let it sit overnight. Next day I filled the rad up with water and drove the car to work pulling my trailer with no issues. I went on a 4-hour road trip (pulling the trailer) all interstate with no issues whatsoever. The car never overheated or lost any water.

When I get the chance I'm going to re-install the secondary fan and pull the jumper so the fans aren't on with the ignition.
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