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[Frequency101]

Nitrous

Interior

Brakes

I need to know as much about all of these as I can. The car is gonna go up on jacks soon, get some body work, tune, and a few other things.

Nitrous... well its a little while down the road, but I am looking at buy these bits and pieces from my friend: The kit, Iceman solenoids, tps, pills, install book, no bottle/gauge. His price for me is about $100. Could I use that TPS sensor... granted this kit came off of a 96 LT1... FYI. If so, I'll look into a purchase.

Interior... Well I'll be taking car of most of that myself. I'm still having dash problems, and I believe it also has to do with my speed sensor in my 284.

Brakes... Now this is what I am really looking into, mostly because I need to upgrade them here shortly. Also.. they are past due. My concern is factory brakes (96 fronts, 94 rears) suck ass, and I need more stopping power. I'm far to curious to know what would be involved in upgrading to Gen II, or even upgrading to a complete hybrid...

I know you guys know your tech shit here, so help me out.

[AWeb80]

I can't help much....but i'm looking forward to learning some.....thanks for the topic.

[97loudcut]

My brakes were never really bad to start off with. But I wanted to upgrade.

I can honestly say that upgrading to the cross drilled and slotted rotors with the Bendix Ceramic pads gave me incredible stopping power. If the rotors are hot and you come to a sudden stop you can here them hissing through the slots and holes.

I think you will be happy with simply upgrading to a nice set of rotors and pads.

[pat]

nitrous eh?

what kinda pistons are in that thing?

i would not ever EVER run a dry shot of more than 30hp.

how good is that stuff?  well used and worn?  you may be better off with a new kit altogether.  i picked up a NX mainline setup on ebay for ~$360 shipped.  and a purge kit for under 60.  there is no way in hell i will run it on my poor 209k mile 305,  but i'll use it on something down the road(corvette comes to mind since i'll have it in a couple years).


one thing i always wanted to do was dick with w-body front brakes,  because they really truly do suck.  i'm willing to bet i could make a fairly inexpensive setup with corvette rotors and some good calipers(IMHO the wilwood GMIII's with one piston are better than w-body stuff, i ran them on my camaro).  problem is i dont have corvette rotors that aren't on the car nor do i have a w-body that needs them,  my sister drives the 94 daily around town so it doesnt matter really.  i'm honestly thinking about selling the stash and letting her drive it into the ground and be done with them 100%

[Frequency101]

nitrous eh?

what kinda pistons are in that thing?

i would not ever EVER run a dry shot of more than 30hp.

Haha, I already know this... but who said that was on this block??

how good is that stuff?  well used and worn?  you may be better off with a new kit altogether.  i picked up a NX mainline setup on ebay for ~$360 shipped.  and a purge kit for under 60.  there is no way in hell i will run it on my poor 209k mile 305,  but i'll use it on something down the road(corvette comes to mind since i'll have it in a couple years).

Fairly new... I think it was installed and never used. All pieces look new. They guy basically got the whole kit just for the NX Bottle.

one thing i always wanted to do was dick with w-body front brakes,  because they really truly do suck.  i'm willing to bet i could make a fairly inexpensive setup with corvette rotors and some good calipers(IMHO the wilwood GMIII's with one piston are better than w-body stuff, i ran them on my camaro).  problem is i dont have corvette rotors that aren't on the car nor do i have a w-body that needs them,  my sister drives the 94 daily around town so it doesnt matter really.  i'm honestly thinking about selling the stash and letting her drive it into the ground and be done with them 100%

If I could get corvette rotors to work, c5 Z06 brakes would be more then enough for this car. This would also open a whole bunch of interesting combinations of new wheels (granted the hubs were changed)

I also have been curious to see if some-one makes a black rotor.. one that could be custom ordered with specific diameters, such as hat size, hub size, bolt pattern, and total diameter. Of course, if I change the front and rear rotors to a larger piston size, I believe the Master Cylinder would need to be replaced with the brake booster. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the size of the piston itself that determines the overall pressure inside of the system which would in turn change the required pressure from the master/booster?

Anyway... brakes are my priority right now, and I don't want to put new stockers in there.

[LownSlow]

what are your engine plans?   i might be building a 96 motor for another car to run 100-150 shot.  i need to do a lot more research first though.  i know someone who ran 175 shot quite often on a stock bottom end L67 and 65ehd and never had any problems.  i would be very excited to see someone do something with these brakes to accept larger rotors and different calipers.  i dont think it would take much more than a caliper adapter bracket, but i havent looked into it enough. i dont think our brakes are that bad, but i was going to run ebc slotted rotors and pads w/ goodridge lines on my gp.  i think that would suffice, but it would be cool to fit something else.  i think i would be a lot of work to swap in w impala front brakes and worthless to do the rears.

[Euro]

this is a good read. how would you go about getting the vette brakes to work??

[Frequency101]

this is a good read. how would you go about getting the vette brakes to work??

I have no idea, I think alot of money would need to be invested to buy the calipers and rotors, unless I can find some junked ones for test fitting...

[Frequency101]

what are your engine plans?   i might be building a 96 motor for another car to run 100-150 shot.  i need to do a lot more research first though.

To do a shot that big you have to be very carefull. I would also look into a cam package to get the most out of the set-up...

i know someone who ran 175 shot quite often on a stock bottom end L67 and 65ehd and never had any problems.

Thats because he is blessed with the pushrod mod.

I would be very excited to see someone do something with these brakes to accept larger rotors and different calipers.  i dont think it would take much more than a caliper adapter bracket, but i havent looked into it enough. i dont think our brakes are that bad, but i was going to run ebc slotted rotors and pads w/ goodridge lines on my gp.  i think that would suffice, but it would be cool to fit something else.  i think i would be a lot of work to swap in w impala front brakes and worthless to do the rears.

It is going to take alot of work... Luckily I have unlimited acess to a machine shop to make some possible brackets. How-ever I disagree with having ok brakes in the upgraded form. When I get in my camaro after driving the lumina, I nearly go through the window braking.

[LownSlow]

idk, for a 96 car, the brakes are pretty good, but they obviously could be better.  of course, 2 of the cars i drove before this one were an 86 camaro and 79 blazer w/ rear drums  :x  the brakes on the cobalt are good for stockers (somewhere around 60-0 in 119ft).  anyone know the specs for stopping distance for a 94+ w?

im thinking 20-30 over pistons, lightweight lifters, eagle forged rods (heard you can get some to fit somehow from a 350), gapless rings.  trying to stay away from doing cams, but i have a set of towers from a 92 i could mess with if i dont get what i want without it.  like i said, i need to do a lot more legwork.

[Frequency101]

yes... it will be a very long, prolly tedious project... I'll prolly go gung ho for about 3 months, and then slow down once I get into a bunch of problems...

I need to get ahold of some 96 heads... Boneyard quoted me for just the cam carries + cams for about 150.

[99RegalGS]

Kyle, you should see how closely your Z28's caliper bracket is to bolting up to the Z34.  if it's close that may open up options.  The C5 caliper will bolt up to the Z28 bracket.

[Euro]

Kyle, you should see how closely your Z28's caliper bracket is to bolting up to the Z34.  if it's close that may open up options.  The C5 caliper will bolt up to the Z28 bracket.

good point, shouldnt it be PRETTY MUCH the same design? since the Gen 2's can have the F-body brake upgrade?

[99RegalGS]

well, I'm going to be finding out how similar 2nd gen suspension and brakes are compared to 1st gen's tomorrow and sat.

[Frequency101]

please do sean... that would be great.

How-ever... I don't have any plans on taking the calipers off my z28 and test fitting them on the lumina. The reason being, I don't want to take the near new brakes off the maro and then put them back on and bleed them...