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« on: February 05, 2008, 05:01:48 PM »

Lucked out again.  The local junkyard had a 1999~ish INTRIGUE there with BOSE, and I got the speakers, and amp for only $25.00

I think that if I can find a GM BOSE 1.5 din BOSE headunit that has a VF dimming output (a car with the digital climate control), then this will all go into my 1988 Cutlass Supreme.

I love the BOSE in my 1995 Cutlass Supreme, so it only makes sense that I will want it in my 1988 as well.

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 06:11:47 PM »

the rears look like what i would call a good base... im not such a fan of paper speakers though, or foam... uhhh whatchamucallits, the surrounding part that flexes with the excursion of the speaker?? i dunno... but the fronts look pretty good, and tweaters, i want some new ones.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 06:35:47 PM »

Those rear speakers are different.  The foam connecting parts are REALLY soft.  In the other cars, they are stiff, but in this car, I had to be careful.  If you touch them, they crease.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 07:11:16 PM »

WTF is this guy thinking?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delco-GM-1994-95-CAMARO-AM-FM-CD-Bose-Collectible_W0QQitemZ290150445041QQihZ019QQcategoryZ38641QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 07:18:11 PM »

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SOLD!

I've been looking all over for one of these damn things, and was pissed off that I passed up an opportunity to buy one for $725.

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 07:21:04 PM »

You should have let me know.  I think the same guy has another one for $275.  

He must REALLY be proud of those things.

If I am going to pay $300 for a STOCK, USED radio (bose included), then it BETTER suck my dick as well as play some bad ass tunes.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 07:22:19 PM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delco-GM-1993-CAMARO-AM-FM-CD-BOSE-Collectible_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38641QQihZ019QQitemZ290079831994QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 07:26:41 PM »

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You should have let me know.  I think the same guy has another one for $275.  

He must REALLY be proud of those things.

If I am going to pay $300 for a STOCK, USED radio (bose included), then it BETTER suck my dick as well as play some bad ass tunes.


Actually I'll settle for spits out dollars bills every once in a while.

I'd get in far, far too many accidents with dick sucking radio, I get distracted easy enough.  Yesterday I almost crossed the center line while thinking OMG is that a Gen 2 Grand Prix with International rims??
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 07:30:38 PM »

I must have missed that one.  I had closed a few of them before I noticed the price of the one I posted.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 07:34:03 PM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delco-GM-Chevy-Olds-AM-FM-CD-Collectible_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38641QQihZ019QQitemZ290134286582QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

$385 for one out of a SILHOUETTE...

He has 3 or 4 more from SILHOUETTES...

There's 6 Silhouettes in salvage auctions with CD players... roll  roll  roll  roll  roll
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 12:12:48 PM »

stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.

What I was thinking about doing is this.

I KNOW I have seen a CONVERTER to put an AFTERMARKET radio in a BOSE car.  So I think I might try to find one of those, and instead of using the aftermarket, use my stock radio I have in there now.

I need to do a LOT more research on this one.  It was easy for my 1995 Cutlass Supreme.  Just get an Aurora BOSE radio.  Problem solved.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 02:23:23 PM »

what did the converter do? would it still use the stock bose amp? cuz i know bypassing it would be incredibly easy, just need a VERY long harness with enough wires in it.... my grand marquis had the REAL radio in the trunk, and the one in the dash was a remote control... antenna wires, power wires speaker wires remote turn ons, all of this had to be ran to the output of the amp. (kindof like how the stereo went into my buick, but instead of bypassing the stock amp under the glovebox, i had to run it to the trunk.) i have pretty detailed pics of doing the deck in the regal if anyone is interested... but its pretty boring.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2008, 02:47:49 PM »

this is about the easiest way I can explain this.

Lets say you have a radio with an amp, and a 4 speaker setup.

In this example, the only wires I am talking about are for SPEAKERS.  No power, no grounds, etc.  This is JUST the speaker wires.

You know with a NORMAL setup, the radio has 8 wires going to the amp, and the amp has 8 wires going to the speakers.

This is NOT how BOSE is.  

In a BOSE setup, the radio has 5 wires going to the amp, and the amp has 8 wires going to the speakers.

With a normal radio speaker output, each speaker channel has 2 wires.  A feed (+), and a return (-) for EACH speaker.  Bose does not do this.  They have 4 feeds (+), and ONE return (-).  Bose has only 4 feeds, and all the speakers share a COMMON GROUND (-).

This is the main reason that it is difficult to do any modifications to a BOSE radio.  Most people don't know about the common ground speaker setup, so they try to hook up an aftermarket radio to a bose amp, and it does not work right.  They get 1 speaker working, and think there is nothing you can do about it.  

I have seen something that is either to put a NORMAL radio in a BOSE car, or a NORMAL speaker in a BOSE car.  I need to look this up.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2008, 06:06:56 PM »

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this is about the easiest way I can explain this.

Lets say you have a radio with an amp, and a 4 speaker setup.

In this example, the only wires I am talking about are for SPEAKERS.  No power, no grounds, etc.  This is JUST the speaker wires.

You know with a NORMAL setup, the radio has 8 wires going to the amp, and the amp has 8 wires going to the speakers.

This is NOT how BOSE is.  

In a BOSE setup, the radio has 5 wires going to the amp, and the amp has 8 wires going to the speakers.

With a normal radio speaker output, each speaker channel has 2 wires.  A feed (+), and a return (-) for EACH speaker.  Bose does not do this.  They have 4 feeds (+), and ONE return (-).  Bose has only 4 feeds, and all the speakers share a COMMON GROUND (-).

This is the main reason that it is difficult to do any modifications to a BOSE radio.  Most people don't know about the common ground speaker setup, so they try to hook up an aftermarket radio to a bose amp, and it does not work right.  They get 1 speaker working, and think there is nothing you can do about it.  

I have seen something that is either to put a NORMAL radio in a BOSE car, or a NORMAL speaker in a BOSE car.  I need to look this up.


Cheap source of Bose speakers, I didn't think that these were at first:

http://london.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-parts-accessories-2002-Grand-Prix-original-Bose-CD-Player-and-speakers-W0QQAdIdZ36305149

Just incase you want a lil' backup, apparently fixing those head systems on the fritz isn't too hard.
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